GURDJIEFF

GURDJIEFF
BY LOUIS PAUWELS

GEORGE INVANOVITCH GURDJIEFF

GEORGE INVANOVITCH GURDJIEFF
by P.L.TRAVERS

IDIOTS IN PARIS

IDIOTS IN PARIS
WE ARE ALL SOME KIND OF IDIOT

Friday, December 3, 2010

P.D. OUSPENSKY PART I

Of all the 'disciples' or 'followers' of the late G. I. Gurdjieff,PETER D.OUSPENSKY may be the most important, since he was the first to bring the Teachings,the System, The Fourth Way,etc. to the WEST in that, going from Russia at the time to Europe, notably England, he actually came ahead of Gurdjieff and was known before G....Of course,some will dispute this....tecnically, sine Turky is both half in Europe and half in Asia, it could be said that G & O brought such to Europe together....of course, others will say the ancient doctrines and concepts came much earlied as part of 'Esoteric Christianity'. Ouspensky was also known in America through his writings before Gurdjieff....and so, since he was the first one whose writings that I encountered 1957, I owe a great deal to the late Ouspensky for bringing me to the Fourth Way,which I do not pretend to follow or know, and to the teachings,mainly his writings and the writings of others on or about him,etc. Ouspensky's works gave me the taste of the work and I must say that he is not an easy read, and can be tedious in places as anyone will find when attempting to look at his mathematical/scientific discussions and writings in print......yet, with persistence, one can arrive at many conclusions and verify a few things for their own...as Ouspensky and Gurdjieff stated as being necessary.. Although Gurdjieff had many followers fo note and fame, his more articulate ones were English or from England and I shall discuss them later one...One in particular, RODNEY COLLIN, a controversial person and considered by a few as the last student or pupil of Ouspensky, and to a rare few as the inheritor of O's system,etc. has left an ample amount of material that can be read with benefit and which will attest to Ouspenki's teachings.... Ouspenksy's writings are much more extensive and detailed and appeal strongly to those of a philosophical or intellectual bent and inclination....that is to the MENTAL CENTER or MENTAL MACHINE.... MADAME OUSPENSKY is another matter for discussion and both of them have a great importance for the ideas, the system, the WORK,etc. Ouspensky, in his book FURTHER TALKS OR A FURTHER TALK has given some hints as to eternal recurrence and the fact that sometimes children are important to understanding this....if asked things before they ar too old, which gives a certain support to the practice of selecting the various LAMAS,especiall the Dalai Lama in a special manner,etc. More on this another time, however....